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Old 07-11-2014, 02:24 AM
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I add this new little template set to the shopsite this evening. Thanks to Paolo for ideas and help with this!



This double thickness template set is similar to the "Narrower" template, however the square in this set is smaller. It is used to narrower the graver too, but so that it closer to parallel with the shank, so that the grind is more long and slender. After the square template is used, the round is used to round the top edge of the slender shank. After this the graver is sharpened normally with the other available templates to make micro versions of the graver points.

The wrench are setscrew are provided to replace the thumbscrew in the sharpening fixture. This is needed to be done before using these templates because they grind so low that the thumbscrew will be in the way if it is not removed. Simple remove the thumbscrew and install the setscrew with the supplied wrench. Of course, when you finish with shaping a graver shank with these templates you may reinstall the thumbscrew.


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Old 07-11-2014, 03:34 AM
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Nice. That will be very useful.
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:34 AM
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Steve hold my order, could you please call me I want this set also was unaware you had it available.

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Old 07-11-2014, 11:37 AM
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Hi Carlos, I saw your order last night. I was going to wait and give you a call. I'll try you this afternoon.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:20 PM
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Paolo made a new video showing what he his doing with the templates.
Thank you again Paolo!

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Old 07-11-2014, 04:18 PM
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Thank you to you Steve i really love this template,before i was using sewing machine needle to make this gravers but they have a channel on it and was very fragile,now can do it with hss,m42 and carbaltX is a great improvement and work great love it,and the cool thing is that i can use it to sharp all the points that i need,universal,detailing,105, flats,rounds......
this is a photo of the new graver ( a micrograver detailing in the middld, a small narrowed detailing stamdard graver and the sewing machine needle that i should use before to give an idea an idea in how the look
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Hi Paolo. Interestingly, these new cutters work well inside the ring?
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Old 07-12-2014, 06:01 AM
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Yes Zahar you can use it too for inside ring engraving just narrow the point like you feel more confortable then sharp with your usual geometry
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Old 07-13-2014, 12:31 PM
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Maybe for inside ring engraving you din't need to taper it a lot like the microgravers but this template allow you taper the graver in a parallel way and this help a lot
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thank you Paolo
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ordered the set and the narrower also. Can wait or it ti get here!
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:26 AM
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Having fun with the MicroGravers:









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That is very cool I must say!

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Hi Mrthe,
That is really some fine micro-work with the microgravers,Awesome !
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:11 AM
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Neat! That is tiny Paolo. What is the diameter of it?
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:19 AM
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Steve the diameter is around 5,5 mm the skull is 2mm

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Old 07-17-2014, 07:44 AM
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Steve the diameter is around 5,5 mm the skull is 2mm
I think in inches and smidgets. The skull at 2mm would be .078". Just a smidget over 1/16". That is a little skull!
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It's the lettering that's most impressive to me.
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Got my set today......Gonna put it to use immediatly..
Did I miss the part of why the two pins in each one.... ??
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I believe the two pins are the same as on the Narrower set - one pin to be square to the sides of the blank and one to be at 45 degrees to the sides.
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Hi SVD and CJ, In these template there are two pins to locate the double templates together. One pin protrudes and the other is recessed. No need to move them and you use as they are shipped.
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OK, Steve.......Thanks..........
I "KNOW" the new coin holders are somewhere in the Mail......huh......??
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Ah, so you set up with the square template, grind the graver down small and then add on the round bit to use to round off the top of the (now) micro shank. Is that correct?
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Old 07-20-2014, 03:07 AM
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Yes Steve you are correct, the square template is to create the " Microblank" then you sharp the point that you need with his blank ( 96,105,116, flat....) then you use the rounded face if the small one to grind the upper part of the graver this act like a narrower too to give to the point a smallest size
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How in the heck did you hold that tiny...tiny coin? That is way to cool!
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:52 PM
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Not sure how is called in english... stone setting pitch?
using a piece of wood small like a pencil for holder
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Looking at the micrograver sharpening templates, I have a couple of dumb questions as soon as I saw the gravers. The final graver diameters look to be about .040" to 1,5mm in thickness, and quite fragile concerning a length to diameter ratio. Unless you have a bomb disposal touch, I can envision many snapping at the point where the grind terminates at the 3/32" shank. Would it be prudent to grind the reduced length barely enough to clear the work, if rubbing of the handle or fingers isn't a problem? I am also guessing that you'd want to use as coarse as possible a disc, with a ginger touch, except for the semi and final grinds on the business end, and they also would need the most delicate of handling techniques. However, the templates seem like a nifty idea, and I couldn't see an easier way to obtain the grinds without using the templates Steve offers. Many sewing machine needles are heat treated, and nickel plated. Needles for leather and boatsail canvas are quite strong, but will flex. Until I'd try out these, it's seems that there'd be a learning curve involved. It's just my opinion.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:13 PM
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Now that I have my set in hand I understand. The second pin isn't a 'real' pin like we're used to. It's a structural element used to hold the two halves of the double thick templates together.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:56 PM
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Yes Steve, like this template is thinked to grind the graver in parallel the thicness is doubke respect the standard templates, this help you in hold the template parallel to the lap
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I just got my templets but having trouble figuring how to use them ... is there any instruction? Thanks~
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Just start with the square one if you have a power hone start with a movement back and forth like in the video this help in sharp it in parallel, for the 4 sides , you will narrow the square blanks to a small one , ehen you will have the size needed use the rounded part of the ither template to round the top side of your graver, after that just use your favorite point to make the face the primary and secondary heel if is a V point, or just the face snd the heel if is a flat
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Old 08-24-2014, 05:45 PM
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Hi Katgraver, I missed your post earlier. Thank you Paolo for posting and helping!
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These remind me of Ray Cover's gravers. He tapers his to a needle point at two or three degrees before he puts the finished geometry on them. Fred
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For my 'test' of the micro template I just reduced the blank to about 1/16". Makes a great 105 for doing Fine English Scroll.

Need to take the time to do a real micro graver - just too many other things in the queue right now.
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